PSL updates criteria for merging secondary domain user counts

It may be due to the recent influx of second-level domain providers that the PSL (Public Suffix List) has adjusted its user count rules :xhj007:

https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/commit/d333b72b39575da1ce6932b01d7c421a4107c620

**Number of THOUSANDS of distinct users this request is being made to serve:**
<!--
The guidelines state that PSL inclusion is considered only for
projects that have achieved a minimum of 2000 - 3000 distinct
users or more.

To be clear, 'users' is the number of distinct individuals
working directly with a relationship with the requestor in
using subnames of the requested space, and is not measured
as the count of the audience of users that would visit to
or interact with the namespace(s).

Please provide us this count, and identify if this is current
actual or it is an estimate. -->

Translation:

The guidelines state that PSL inclusion is only considered when a project achieves at least 2,000 to 3,000 distinct users.

To clarify, “users” refers to the number of distinct individuals who directly have a relationship with the requester and actively use subdomains under the requested namespace. This number does not include the wider audience interacting with or visiting the namespace.

Please provide this data and specify whether it is the current actual figure or an estimate.

My personal understanding is:

  • At least 1,000 users → now at least 2,000 distinct users
  • The definition of “users” is now less ambiguous: it refers to the direct number of unique individuals who actually use the applied-for subnamespace. For second-level domain distribution, this basically equates to the number of second-level domains; this is unrelated to the platform’s total users, users under other domains, or tertiary domain users (users’ users)
  • Actual current data must be provided; estimates are no longer accepted

Related historical post:
https://www.nodeloc.com/t/topic/69531

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It’s getting stricter and stricter.

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That’s pretty good. Strict reviews can help prevent abuse, but I hope everyone is treated equally and that Chinese users aren’t viewed with bias.

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There are already more than enough subdomains—now it’s even stricter, which is a good thing.

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Yeah, it’s getting stricter and stricter.

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I don’t plan to apply for now. There isn’t much user demand, and there are plenty of free domains joining the PSL anyway. I’m happy just making a niche domain, haha :joy:

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There are already a lot of existing second-level domains according to the PSL.

As a maintainer, there should be an option to remove items from the list.

This is really tough :xhj27: Looking at the new ones now, it’s almost impossible to meet this requirement.

Add some quantum dots. JE from Edward’s lab · Pull Request #2854 · publicsuffix/list
Over 1,600 were directly rejected—it’s really getting strict.

It’s just for show—back when that .in was merged, they estimated maybe a few hundred users, but in reality, probably only a few dozen ever actually applied for a certificate.

Removal is handled more cautiously than addition, because removing means users will lose PSL protection. So, generally, a domain is only removed if it has expired or upon explicit request.

It seems unlikely to get approval during the early stage of the domain.